The Three Angels' of Revelation 14:6-12

The Three Angels' of Revelation 14:6-12
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Saturday, August 15, 2015

The State of the Dead

ACTS 2:22-36 (RSB)

2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Yahshua of Nazareth, a man approved of Elohim among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which Elohim did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of Elohim, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have impaled and slain:

2:24 Whom Yahweh hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I FORESAW YAHWEH ALWAYS BEFORE MY FACE, FOR HE IS ON MY RIGHT HAND, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE MOVED:

2:26 THEREFORE DID MY HEART REJOICE, AND MY TONGUE WAS GLAD; MOREOVER ALSO MY FLESH SHALL REST IN HOPE:

2:27 BECAUSE THOU WILT NOT LEAVE MY SOUL IN THE GRAVE, NEITHER WILT THOU SUFFER THINE HOLY ONE TO SEE CORRUPTION.

2:28 THOU HAST MADE KNOWN TO ME THE WAYS OF LIFE; THOU SHALT MAKE ME FULL OF JOY WITH THY COUNTENANCE.

2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that Elohim had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Messiah to sit on his throne;

2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Messiah, that his soul was not left in the grave, neither his flesh did see corruption.

2:32 This Yahshua hath Yahweh raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of Elohim exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: BUT HE SAITH HIMSELF, YAHWEH SAID UNTO MY MASTER, SIT THOU ON MY RIGHT HAND,

2:35 UNTIL I MAKE THY FOES THY FOOTSTOOL.

2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that Elohim hath made that same Yahshua, whom ye have impaled, both Master and Messiah.

Verse 24- We see clearly that it was God the Father who raised up His Son Jesus from the pains of death. Death=thanatos (Greek) which means deadly, death, the extinction of life, to die. So clearly, Jesus literally died on the cross. The state of death he was in, was an extinction of life as an animated being= living soul. Once he died he became a dead soul as a soul by very definition cannot survive apart from the body or the spirit which is the breath of life, mind and wind breathed into every living person by Jehovah. There is no definition of soul or spirit that describes the aforementioned as creatures unto themselves. Spirit (pnuema) +Body (soma)= A Living soul (psuche). Without either the spirit or body then the soul cannot live. There is no scripture that backs up Jesus as a spirit creature or disembodied soul ascending to Heaven while his body lay in the grave or for that matter dwelling in a spirit underworld as such.

Verse 25-David rejoiced at the fact that his soul (a living animated being when alive and then a dead unconscious being when deceased) will not be left in Hell. Huh, what does Hell mean here? Hell=haides (Greek) which means properly unseen, the grave, hell, place of departed souls (again souls cannot exist apart from the body) meaning a dead body, abode or world of the dead (can be used in a metaphorical sense). Do we really think that King David was talking about being left in a spiritual underworld of floating souls? He was a man after God's own heart. If anyone wouldn't be left to suffer in a spiritual underworld of torment it would be King David. Also, Hell in the Old Testament was Sheol which also meant the grave not a spiritual underworld. So these words David spoke are actually from the Old Testament. David then states that thou (Jehovah) will not allow his Holy One (Jehoshua) to see corruption=diaphthora (Greek) which means decay, corruption. Why would David be speaking about a disembodied soul here in describing decay which is a result of a  physical property deteriorating. David was speaking of Jesus here as we will see.

Verse 29- Now if people don't get the truth of what is being said here then I don't know what will wake them up. Paul clearly says David is dead which means extinction of life. Paul states that David is with us "unto this day". If Paul is saying David as being dead was with them that day, is talking about some spiritual underworld or about him being in Heaven?  No of course not, he is talking about the literal grave (Hell) that his soul (dead unconscious body) is laying in which is on the earth which is precisely why Paul said David is "with us".

Verse 31 - David was shown by Jehovah that His Son Jesus Christ would be resurrected and that his soul  was not left in Hell (the literal grave) Soul=psuche (Greek) which means the lower part of man's being (his flesh instincts such as sexual, eating,  drinking etc), the animating element in man and animals, natural faculties, the seat of the senses, desires, affections,  passions. Jesus Christ was raised from the dead before his flesh saw corruption.  Show me one scripture where Jesus after dying on the cross went to Heaven as a spirt creature or dwelled in an underworld Hell as a disembodied soul. 

Verse 32- God the Father raised up Jesus. Jesus didn't raise himself up.

Verse 33- Once Jesus ascended to Heaven he sat exalted at the Right hand of his Father. This also proves that Jesus and the Father are two distinct beings of the Godhead.  They are not play acting a father/son relationship as so many teach. 
Verse 34-35- This is a game changer for anyone who thinks we as believers go right to Heaven after death of our bodies. Paul says David ( a man after God's own heart by the way) "Is Not" (current tense) ascended to Heaven!  There you go, this totally destroys the false doctrine of spiritualism that says our disembodied souls and/or our spirits as creatures go to Heaven upon bodily death. David's body is in the grave (haides-Hell) amd with us still as the grave (Hell) is on this very earth and not a spiritual underworld of torment. David is awaiting the last day resurrection when Christ comes for the Saints, the dead first and then those who are alive.  See 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18.

David then states that the Lord (Jehovah) saith unto my Lord (Jehoshua), "Sit thou on my right hand,  Until I make thy foes thy footstool."


  • This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that God The Father and His Son Jesus Christ are two distinct divine beings of the Godhead and that they have a very real Father/Son relationship as the Son say in His Father's right hand. They are not play acting,  they have real separate administrations in the Heavenly realm. They have the same Spirit and Mind but are distinct from each other. They have the same root but are different branches.

John 19:30 (KJV)

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Jesus gave up his ghost=pneuma (Greek) which means a current of air, breath, or a breeze, mind (mental disposition), of the mouth or the nostrils, a breathing, blast. The vital breath of life, the principle of life residing in man.

The definition of ghost as you can see has nothing to do with a spirit creature but rather the simple breath, mind and wind breathed into every living person by Jehovah at birth. Once a person dies then the reverse happens,  the breath, mind and wind which were once in the life of the person leave the body and return to the originator of those properties which is Jehovah. This was no different when Jesus died, his life principles such as his breath, mind and wind returned to his Father Jehovah. So, we then can safely say his ghost was not some spirit flying creature but the simple breath, mind and wind of His life going back to the Father. Also, his soul didn't go to the spirt underworld as a soul cannot be apart from the body by it's very definition of being an animated living being whether animal or human. Basically a spirit (ghost) + body= a living soul and without either a spirit or body then the soul no longer lives but is dead. So, Jesus ghost went back to Jehovah and his soul was with his body in the grave which was dead until Jehovah raised him up. This refutes any teaching of Jesus either dwelling in a spirit underworld or in heaven as a spirit creature or disembodied soul during the three days he was physically dead.

Jonah 2 (KJV)

2 Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,

2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.

4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.

5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.

6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.

7 When my soul fainted within me I remembered the Lord: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.

8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.

9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the Lord.

10 And the Lord spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

Matthew 12:40 (KJV)

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Verse 2 of Jonah 2- This word for Hell in Hebrew is Sheol (The Grave, pit, death). Jonah here is likening being in the fish's belly to that of being dead in the grave. It was dark and desolate in the fish's belly. This is exactly what it is like in literal graves as they are in the heart of the earth. Jonah's whole body was in the fish's belly, he wasn't down there as a disembodied spirit or soul.

Verse 10-Jonah was vomitted out of the grave by the doing of Jehovah. A type of resurrection. 

In the verse above in Matthew 12:40, Jehoshua prophesies that his death and ressurection will be likened unto Jonah's experience in length and similarity. Jehoshua then states that during the length of his death that he will be cast into the heart of the earth. Notice, nowhere does it state that Jesus is going to some spirit underworld. Jehoshua likens his experience of upcoming death to Jonah's, which included a physical body being in a dark desolate place which Jonah likened to Hell=The grave in Hebrew (Sheol). This confirms Jesus statement of being cast into the heart of the earth as the literal grave not some spirit underworld. Just as Jonah was vomitted out of the earth by the power of Jehovah,  vomit usually means a coming up of something (a type of resurrection), Jehoshua was resurrected by his father Jehovah out of the grave.

So, we know that Jesus upon dying went to the grave not a spirit underworld. His body was in this grave. Being that the very definition of "soul" is a living animated being (human or animal) not a disembodied spirit, Jesus didn't go as a spirit creature to Heaven upon his death. That is actually Jehovah Witness teaching. The very definition of "spirit" is breath, wind and mind of God and it does not mean a floating spirit creature. Jesus being the very image of His Father, and us being made in their image, has a body (albeit glorified now). Once Jehoshua ascended to Heaven to sit on the right hand of His Father Jehovah, then the Holy Spirit (God and Jesus spirit poured out) was sent to us which is the unseen presence of Jesus dwelling among us and in us. Remember, this is Jesus spirit sent to us but not Jesus himself the being. Jesus the divine being had a glorified body that was even able to eat fish with his disciples.  The spirit proceeds from the Father to the Son and to us as believers. The proof that Jesus didn't float up to heaven in either a "spirit" or disembodied soul is in the below text.


John 20:16-17 (KJV)

16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

This verse once and for all confirms that when Jesus died on the cross that he went to the grave as a dead soul (being that the soul by definition of animation of a living being cannot be apart from the body) and that he did not in anyway ascend to Heaven as a spirit creature.  Again, the teaching that Jesus ascended to Heaven upon his death as a spirit creature is a Jehovah Witness teaching. Jesus isn't play acting here, he either went to Heaven upon his death or he didn't. He clearly states here that he didn't. Some may say that his spirit was in the underworld during the three days of his physical death. This can't be true as you will see from the below scripture:

John 19:30 (KJV)

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Jesus gave up his ghost=pneuma (Greek) which means a current of air, breath, or a breeze, mind (mental disposition), of the mouth or the nostrils, a breathing, blast. The vital breath of life, the principle of life residing in man.

The definition of ghost as you can see has nothing to do with a spirit creature but rather the simple breath, mind and wind breathed into every living person by Jehovah at birth. Once a person dies then the reverse happens,  the breath, mind and wind which were once in the life of the person leave the body and return to the originator of those properties which is Jehovah. This was no different when Jesus died, his life principles such as his breath, mind and wind returned to his Father Jehovah. So, we then can safely say his ghost was not some spirit flying creature but the simple breath, mind and wind of His life going back to the Father. Also, his soul didn't go to the spirt underworld as a soul cannot be apart from the body by it's very definition of being an animated living being whether animal or human. Basically a spirit (ghost) + body= a living soul and without either a spirit or body then the soul no longer lives but is dead. So, Jesus ghost went back to Jehovah and his soul was with his body in the grave which was dead until Jehovah raised him up. This refutes any teaching of Jesus either dwelling in a spirit underworld or in heaven as a spirit creature or disembodied soul during the three days he was physically dead.

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